Conspit brings a more affordable Hydraulic pedal set
Conspit is a somewhat new company in simracing. They came into attention due a pedal set with cheating software. So they sent me one. Anyways, hawk tuah conspit on that thing. Why hasnt anyone done this joke?
Disclaimer, conspit sent this for review via their uk distributor racesim, like any other review I do, they dont get to see the video beforehand, I say what I want, opinions my own.
The Conspit CPP LITEs are quite interesting. I tried the EVOs, the lites counterparts, back in simracing expo 2024 and I liked them quite a lot.The CPP lites have a lot of crossover with the evos, minus a few adjustability functions on the throttle and brake.
The big thing about these pedals is that they are really well priced for an hydraulic set. The price will hover between regions and between distributors. In the UK the 2 pedal version is 529 pounds, and the 3 pedal version 599. In the US and europe you may expect values around this, plus or minus 50. Consspit also sent the 10Nm Ares wheelbase and the GP290 for review. So subscribe.
Specs wise, these pedals are built with heat treated aluminum, the throttle and clutch have hall effect sensors, and the brake is hydraulic with a elastomer stack. The elastomer stack can be preloaded o change the brake feel, and the throttle and brake also have multiple holes to change the shaft angle. The higher the shaft in the hole, the stiffer the pedal feel is going to be. (looks at camera). For the brake, changing the shaft position requires the preload screw to be undone and pumping the brake a couple of times. The rather slim pedal face position can also be tilted.
All three pedals have a rumble type vibration motor that can be individually addressed in the conspit software or simhub. The mounting plate is made of stiff plastic, not low quality or anything, but A bit of a let down on an otherwise really well built system.
At this price for for these features, thats really good offer here. And that seems to be the theme with conspit with the wheel base and their wheel, the 290GP. These will be reviewed in the coming weeks, so subscribe to keep up to date.
Inside the box, you have the pedals, the pedal tray and some tools. The pedals I suspect are store stock that has been used before, because there were some scuff marks, something also that was on the wheelbase, and a few of the fittings bags were opened.
The mounting is simple. The pedals have have bolt holes at the center, and then itis a case of attaching the bolts there and route the cables through. The cable routing isnt that difficult to do, but the controller box poisitoning its really annoying to say the least.Its like conspit picked up the worst thing about fanatec pedals and made them even worse. The controller box also has the USB connection, A printer type USB. I know its a USB B. and the power connector.
The pedal plate allow for bottom mounting, or bolt through mounting in a mounting pattern similar to fanatec. It should compatible with most pedal base plates. There are a few holes to allow some movement to the pedals. In theory these pedals could be inverted, however the throttle and clutch have different light cables, being the throttle incredibly short, making invertsing them had if not impossible unless the electronics box is taken out and mounted elsewhere.
The assembly shouldnt take you more than 30 minutes from start to mounting it onto your rig.
We need to talk about the Software. First of all, their site has two conspit links. One called conspit link latest version 2.09 and a conspit link 2 latest version 1.08. The latest conspit link version is conspit 2 version 1.08. Conspit software is extremely easy to use. Select the pedals, calibrate the pedals, and any curves. The vibration options can be selected as well, including Simhub mode. To configure SIMHUB, go to shake it motors, then motors output, scroll to the pedals and activate them. Select for each pedal what effects you want to use and make sure you activate those effects in effects profile. For the conspit software doing the effects on its own, you can have only one effect per channel.
As for the cheating software that these pedals got known for, Ive enquired about that and they said “We have officially canceled this feature with the release of Conspit Link 2.0. Previously, we engaged in discussions with several game developers, including iRacing, who expressed interest in seeing innovation on the software side. Building on these conversations, iRacing even integrated this feature into their game as the Launch Trigger, a semi-automatic CONSPIT launch control.
However, considering the importance of maintaining fair gameplay and a competitive balance for all players, we have taken this matter very seriously. As a result, we have ultimately decided to ban this feature from our platform.”.
You know what? Good move.
Ok, driving time. I am impressed by these pedals, though theres one particular thing in the brake that may leave some of you on the back foot and probably for good reason.
First of all, because this is an hydraulic set, plenty of users will compare it to the asetek invictas. They are completely different in everything. For comparison with simagic p1000, I never reviewed them, so cant make any comparisons.
I think the closest thing, at least for the pedal and clutch, the brake is a different thing, to the CPP lites, is the fanatec V3 set. It was the first thing that came into my mind. And theres nothing wrong with that, in reality that set works great. Though the brake is outclassed by almost everything now.
The throttle is really smooth, comfortable and precise. The preload can be adjusted with the change of shaft position, and additionally with the preload nut in front of the spring. As they come stock, they are incredibly light, with a bit of adjustment they add stiffness without much springiness kickback. Theres no way to adjust the pedal travel, the travel is very average, similar in length to V3 and also pedal feel, hence the comparisons with the fanatec pedal set.
The clutch is the same story. It has a well defined bite point. Similar to fanatec V3. I like the clutch, its really good for heel toe, and going through gears. Theres an additional clutch setting available too.
Ok, the centerpiece here is the brake pedal, this is where generally everyone will gain or lose seconds. I really like this brake pedal. This is one of those hydraulic sets with an oil chamber, then a piston that compresses a separate elastomer stack that is in a chamber. This chamber can be preloaded. And there arent any elastomers in the set to be changed. What will be a make or break the lites for plenty of drivers is the dampened feel through all the range, including on return. This means, without a preload spring, or a stiffer elastomer, to do this work, the brake pedal return will be quite slow. Changing the brake shaft position, mitigates it somewhat, but still you will see some slowness.
As it came stock, it was on position 2, or “compaetitive racing cars”, I think they mean supercar,. I felt it soft for a simracing pedal. Very much reminded my of my car with the brake prefill setting enabled, in terms of stiffness and progression. In this specific mode, I was losing time, because the brake return wasnt as fast, and it was slightly overbraking, for my driving style.
Changing it for the GT position, or third spot from the bottom, removed that issue for me, but youll still feel that slowness if you pay attention. the pedal firmed up, but its still not that stiff,
In this stiffer position, brake modulation is great for me. it has the right amount of force. Trailbreaking is a breeze, the damping does help in the return part of the brake. it feels more like a car pedal, if that matters much. They are very precise with a great feel.
In the way they feel and function, they are very different from the invicta S pedals. Those always a had a very stiff feeling in a very short throw. I personally prefer the longer dampened feel and travel of this set, but I prefer the return speed of the invictas.
Now for the last part of the pedals, that will be the haptics, well, they are strong. There are a bunch of effects to use in simhub, or in the software. Im not a big fan of the effects to be fair, they feel kind of generic, then again I wasnt a big fan of them in the V3s as well for the same reason. Of course the V3 were waaay weaker. But the effects are there. I must say the wheel lock function were available is useful. Stacking many effects in simhub returns less yield, so singling to one or two effects per pedal is better, ive find. Regardless of what I like, the vibration motors are there and they work just fine.
So, for conclusions, I think we have here a winning pedal set in my opinion. 599 for a three pedal set of this quality is something commendable. They are a dependable set, with a nice feel in all three pedals, and the hydraulic brake is actually pretty good when it gets in a stiffer shaft setting. In the same vein, the lack of a spring or a different elastomer set, also gets the set down for some users, as the dampened feel will get a slower return of the brake. Something that may not be of everyones taste. The other negative is the base. Everything else was great, great performance, build, the software is easy to understand, with lots of useful features at a price that is actually affordable.
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